1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,000 There's something about the building. 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:16,440 Working at the Capitol Theater, it did leave you with an eerie feeling. 3 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:22,160 I'm not easily scared, but it's a feeling of evil. 4 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:29,720 It's mine to make sure it's secure, but I don't feel secure. 5 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,720 There is something definitely messing with me. 6 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:37,720 I know what I saw. 7 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,720 You're so sure this heck wasn't in the job description. 8 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:42,720 There's something behind you. 9 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:13,720 I've always wanted to work in line enforcement. 10 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:19,720 It's kind of a cliche thing, but I wanted to do it ever since I was a child. 11 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:27,720 My job as a protective service officer is to watch over numerous county facilities. 12 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:31,720 And my first assignment was the Capitol Theater. 13 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,720 It's been around for a long time, the Capitol Theater. 14 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:42,720 It's a part of Salt Lake's history. 15 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:54,720 Thanks for the ride. 16 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,720 I met Officer Matthews. 17 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:19,720 He was assigned to me about a week, two weeks, depending how long it took an individual to get accustomed to the building. 18 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:26,720 He flipped the lights on, then you truly get to see a theater, and it's just absolutely gorgeous. 19 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,720 It's amazing. 20 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:37,720 When Officer Murphy first arrived, he was nervous, he was apprehensive because it was a new job for him, but he was eager to learn. 21 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,720 So we jumped right into it. 22 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,720 There are surveillance cameras throughout the facility. 23 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:45,720 You can pull up anything you want. 24 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:46,720 Right. 25 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,720 So you got your center stage. 26 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:50,720 This one, cataclysm. 27 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,720 Front door, port. 28 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:59,720 So you literally could sit in the control room and monitor just about anywhere in the building. 29 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:01,720 Ready for a tour? 30 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,720 Let's do it. 31 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:15,720 I felt Officer Matthews didn't want to say a whole lot to me except for my duties. 32 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:24,720 Now the first time when you come on shift, you lock everything down. 33 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,720 There are a lot of nooks and crannies that anybody can be in. 34 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:44,720 And so you want to make sure that you check them out to make sure that there's nobody in there. 35 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:56,720 I bet you can't wait to be on your own. 36 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:02,720 I took him down to the basement, which is what we call the catacombs. 37 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,720 The basement is massive. 38 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:06,720 Security lights. 39 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:10,720 There's a lot of rooms, dressing rooms, locker rooms. 40 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,720 There's maintenance, the wood shop. 41 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:19,720 So you would just go through and you would test every door knob to make sure that they were locked. 42 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:28,720 And then you would work your way up into the different levels. 43 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,720 What's about it? 44 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:31,720 That's everything. 45 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:32,720 He was quiet. 46 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,720 He was very quiet. 47 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,720 That's it. 48 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:56,720 I just felt as if he was holding something back. 49 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:58,720 And I finally decided I came to work one night. 50 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:00,720 I thought I can do this on my own. 51 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:08,720 It's not hard. 52 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:09,720 I had the building down. 53 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:11,720 I knew what had to be done. 54 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:24,720 I've got it downpacked. 55 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:32,720 So as I come up the west stairwell, now on the third floor. 56 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:48,720 And the building's all but locked down. 57 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:38,720 I make my way down and this is where the rehearsal rooms are. 58 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:45,720 I'll stick my head in quickly just to make sure there's nobody there. 59 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:52,720 Everything was good. 60 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,720 Door slams behind me. 61 00:06:55,720 --> 00:07:01,720 I mean with incredible force it just... 62 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:11,720 I'm looking to see if somebody ran down the hall if they ran and hit the exit. 63 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:15,720 Officer Murphy called me and he says somebody just slammed a door up here. 64 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:17,720 Can you check the cameras over? 65 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:18,720 Copy that. 66 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:24,720 Checking now. 67 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,720 I don't see anything. 68 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:34,720 I'm coming now. 69 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:35,720 I'm thinking logically. 70 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:37,720 He can't slam the door. 71 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:41,720 There's a hydraulic hinge on the top. 72 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:50,720 So I start to remove my gun and I got it in the ready position. 73 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:56,720 I get this strong impression somebody's waiting for me. 74 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,720 There's an individual in there. 75 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,720 My adrenaline kicks in. 76 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:04,720 It's my duty. 77 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:05,720 I'm an officer. 78 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:18,720 I'm going to make sure. 79 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:25,720 I remember running as fast as I could through the theater to get to where he was. 80 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:32,720 I understand when somebody says there's somebody in here you believe 110%. 81 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:53,720 I walk in. 82 00:08:53,720 --> 00:09:00,720 I just get this sickening feeling comes over me. 83 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:18,720 And as soon as I come around the corner I've got goosebumps. 84 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:28,720 And this cold goes right through me. 85 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:38,720 I'm freezing to death. 86 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,720 Sheriff's Department come out now. 87 00:09:42,720 --> 00:10:02,720 It's a feeling of evil. 88 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:19,720 I can see the sink. 89 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,720 I see the men's urinal. 90 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:23,720 I see the stalls. 91 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,720 I look underneath the stalls and there's no feet there. 92 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:37,720 So I'm thinking maybe they're on the standing on the toilets trying to hide. 93 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,720 Nobody's there. 94 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:49,720 And that's when I turn and I look at Officer Murphy and he's got this look of like oh boy I messed this one up big time. 95 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:51,720 Nothing here dude. 96 00:10:51,720 --> 00:11:02,720 I'm not easily intimidated but the feeling I had in the restroom was I was scared. 97 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,720 Better do a full sweep. 98 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:05,720 See if anyone's hiding him. 99 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:06,720 Alright. 100 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:10,720 We decide okay if there's somebody in this building we need to find him. 101 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:33,720 We go to the second floor. 102 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,720 I'm standing there in amazement. 103 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:36,720 I'm shocked. 104 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,720 I mean I had just turned those lights off. 105 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:40,720 I mean I had just locked those doors. 106 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,720 I secured that floor. 107 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,720 Every light is on and doors are open. 108 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:49,720 I just locked this door. 109 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:50,720 Did you come up here earlier? 110 00:11:50,720 --> 00:12:01,720 No. 111 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:03,720 I turned the lights off. 112 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:05,720 I locked the door and I went down the stairs. 113 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,720 I know I secured it. 114 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:18,720 It was kind of cold between I felt Matthews and I the remainder of that evening. 115 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:30,720 I don't want to say I was holding something back but there had been some unusual things that had happened to me while working in the theater and I just couldn't come out and tell them. 116 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:44,720 I needed to keep my credibility as his training officer. 117 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:52,720 I was sitting at my desk in the security room when I start to hear voices. 118 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:59,720 When I'm talking voices I'm not talking about how I'm talking right now but these are conversations that are going on behind me. 119 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:08,720 She's talking to the next door. 120 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:09,720 She's talking to the next door. 121 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:10,720 She's talking to the next door. 122 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:11,720 She's talking to the next door. 123 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:12,720 She's talking to the next door. 124 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:13,720 She's talking to the next door. 125 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:14,720 She's talking to the next door. 126 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:15,720 She's talking to the next door. 127 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:16,720 She's talking to the next door. 128 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:17,720 She's talking to the next door. 129 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:18,720 She's talking to the next door. 130 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:19,720 She's talking to the next door. 131 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:20,720 She's talking to the next door. 132 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:21,720 She's talking to the next door. 133 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:31,720 There's nobody there. 134 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:36,720 At this point the hairs on the back of my neck are starting to prick up. 135 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:40,720 I can't get out. 136 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:44,720 My heart's going out. 137 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,720 And I'm thinking something really is messing with me. 138 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:48,720 I can't breathe. 139 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:52,720 Something or someone. 140 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:54,720 I know I'm not crazy. 141 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:55,720 She's talking to the next door. 142 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,720 She's talking to the next door. 143 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:00,720 Get out. 144 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:01,720 Get out of here. 145 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:02,720 Get out of here. 146 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:03,720 Get out. 147 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:08,720 Get out of here. 148 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:17,720 I went into the basement where all the dressing rooms are and those voices. 149 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,720 It's almost cave-like. 150 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:23,720 There was no windows. 151 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,720 There was no street access. 152 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,720 You're trapped. 153 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,720 And I smell something. 154 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,720 And I recognize what that smell is. 155 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:46,720 I smell smoke. 156 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:53,720 That smoke smell is so constant the theater would have had to burn down multiple times. 157 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:57,720 But 100% positive. 158 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:02,720 There is nothing going on. 159 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:08,720 Something that's messing with you that's playing mind tricks on you. 160 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:25,720 You really begin to question your own self. 161 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:27,720 I had come on duty one night. 162 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:32,720 It was later in the afternoon, so maybe four, five-ish thereabouts. 163 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,720 And I do my routine. 164 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:35,720 And there's a man. 165 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:36,720 That's interesting. 166 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,720 Standing at the end of the hall talking to two women. 167 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:45,720 So I'm in the corridor and I'm listening to the women tell this gentleman the story. 168 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:51,720 Well, these ghost stories and hauntings, they've been going on for many, many years. 169 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:53,720 And I hear the word ghost. 170 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,720 That's got my attention now. 171 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:56,720 Excuse me, sir. 172 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:58,720 I introduce myself to him. 173 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:00,720 Dave Murphy, I'm the new deputy here at the theater. 174 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,720 He says I'm Blair Fuller, senior accountant. 175 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,720 Might have asked you a few questions. 176 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:07,720 Sure. 177 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:08,720 Why don't you step into my office? 178 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:09,720 That'd be great. Thank you. 179 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:13,720 He was very curious after having heard that I'd had some experiences there. 180 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:14,720 Have a seat right here. 181 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:20,720 So I began to share with him the story that happened to me as I was there working late at night. 182 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:27,720 I tend to get a lot more things done when I work late. 183 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:32,720 So I'm working at about nine or ten o'clock in the evening. 184 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:47,720 Just outside of our main office is an elevator. 185 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:52,720 When the motor kicks on for that, it's a very loud noise. 186 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:07,720 I'm there in the building alone, so I was very surprised to hear the elevator moving at night. 187 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,720 The elevator reached our floor. 188 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:01,720 The door stays open that long. 189 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:06,720 I walked out to the elevator to see what was going on. 190 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,720 I thought that's really odd. 191 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,720 There's nothing blocking the door. 192 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,720 I thought that it was most likely a malfunction. 193 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:33,720 So I got on the elevator, and just as I'm about to leave the elevator, the basement button has lit. 194 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:46,720 We're going down now three floors from where my office is to the basement. 195 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,720 This whole time my mind is running, what is going on with this elevator? 196 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,720 Why is it moving? 197 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,720 I'm going to go down. 198 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,720 We get to the basement. 199 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,720 The door's open. 200 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,720 There's nobody in the hallway. 201 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,720 Hello? 202 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:43,720 Hello? 203 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,720 Is anyone there? 204 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,720 No. 205 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:10,720 There was nobody that I could see, and I was very alone and very nervous at that point in time. 206 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:33,720 I went back and sat down at my desk, and then it even gets stranger. 207 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:35,720 It's getting stranger. 208 00:20:53,720 --> 00:21:00,720 Plane. Plane. Plane. Plane. Plane. Plane. Plane. Plane. 209 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,720 I was very, very scared. 210 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:12,720 I tried to find every way I could to disprove what was going on, what my eyes and my senses were telling me, and I couldn't do it. 211 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,720 There's anything else you want to ask? 212 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:22,720 From what I'm hearing from Blair, I felt that somebody else has similar experiences. 213 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:27,720 To me, I'm not going crazy, because that's one of the things I felt I was going crazy. 214 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:47,720 We're getting towards the end of my training period, and we're on the second tier of the auditorium, the seating area. 215 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,720 Morning. 216 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:51,720 What's up? 217 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:56,720 I said, you ever get the feeling you're being watched in this place? 218 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,720 Me, me. 219 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:06,720 Since I've started here, I've heard weird noises, doors have slammed on me. 220 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,720 Lights are on in places where you know there's nobody. 221 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,720 I just have this feeling of dread. 222 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,720 That's kind of when he starts to open up to me. 223 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,720 And then voices. 224 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:23,720 We just started having conversations about my experiences there. 225 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:24,720 What he's been hearing. 226 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,720 How long has this been happening here? 227 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:27,720 Since day one. 228 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,720 What he's been feeling. 229 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,720 I think I'm right there. 230 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:37,720 Once he opened up to me, and we started exchanging stories, 231 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:47,720 my good friend Greg came to mind, and he's got a gift and an ability to see things. 232 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:52,720 Officer Murphy wanted to bring him in and see what he could find. 233 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:53,720 Greg. 234 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:54,720 Dave. 235 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:55,720 Nice to see you. 236 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,720 And I was like, let's do it. 237 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:58,720 I'm all for it. 238 00:22:58,720 --> 00:22:59,720 Is my boss Morgan? 239 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:00,720 How are you? 240 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:01,720 To meet you. 241 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:05,720 I had known Officer Murphy for probably 15 years. 242 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:10,720 Shortly after he began working at the Capitol Theater, I received a call from him. 243 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:11,720 Give you the grand tour? 244 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:12,720 Let's go. 245 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,720 And he invited me to come over. 246 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,720 I didn't tell him anything. 247 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,720 I didn't tell him about our experiences. 248 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:22,720 Nothing. 249 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,720 He came in cold. 250 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,720 He was like, I'm not going to be able to see him again. 251 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,720 I'm not going to be able to see him again. 252 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,720 I'm not going to be able to see him again. 253 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,720 I'm not going to be able to see him again. 254 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,720 I'm not going to be able to see him again. 255 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,720 I'm not going to be able to see him again. 256 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,720 I'm not going to be able to see him again. 257 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,720 I'm not going to be able to see him again. 258 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,720 I'm not going to be able to see him again. 259 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,720 I'm not going to be able to see him again. 260 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,720 I'm not going to be able to see him again. 261 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,720 I'm not going to be able to see him again. 262 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,720 I'm not going to be able to see him again. 263 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,720 I'm not going to be able to see him again. 264 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:32,720 Looking around, I noticed that there are many people standing there. 265 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,720 So I'm plain stupid. 266 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,720 I'm like, what do you mean, Greg? 267 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,720 The officers were oblivious. 268 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,720 He said he didn't tell me this place was haunted. 269 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:47,720 And they're not good. 270 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,720 And from that point on, I was like, 271 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:56,720 I was watching and listening to see if the things that I was going through 272 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,720 could be validated through him. 273 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,720 There are stairs that lead down underneath the stage, 274 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,720 into the dressing area, into the actors' dressing rooms. 275 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:11,720 So we went down. 276 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,720 So we're looking down the hallway, 277 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,720 and we noticed one of the doors is open. 278 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,720 And then it's opened, you know, a good foot. 279 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,720 Wow, that door shuts so hard and so fast. 280 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,720 Matthew turns to me and he's got that holy crap looked on his face. 281 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,720 Both Officer Murphy and I reach for our weapons. 282 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:49,720 Cover. 283 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,720 The door handles started rattling. 284 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:09,720 Three of us are seeing, hearing something physical happen. 285 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:19,720 Door slammed. 286 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,720 And then all of a sudden this door is shaken like crazy. 287 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,720 Did you check the room out? There's nothing there. 288 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,720 Yeah, I mean, how do you explain it? 289 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:29,720 It's weird. 290 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,720 They were both very, very rattled at that point. 291 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,720 Both officers were very, very rattled. 292 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,720 You see nothing? You see? You see? 293 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,720 How can you talk about your feelings other than you're just like, 294 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,720 whoa, you know, this is really happening right now. 295 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:54,720 We'd started down the hall. 296 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,720 And as we proceeded forward, it got warmer. 297 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:06,720 Greg is hitting a hotspot where I know there's something there 298 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,720 because I can always smell the smoke. 299 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,720 I said to Dave and Officer Matthews, has there been a fire in this building? 300 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,720 And they said, why do you ask? 301 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,720 And I said, I could smell smoke. 302 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:28,720 Greg, you all right? 303 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,720 What's your other light in this corner for? 304 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:33,720 I don't know. 305 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:34,720 I don't know. 306 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:35,720 I don't know. 307 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,720 What's your other light in this corner for? 308 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:39,720 I saw a young man. 309 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:43,720 I don't see anything. 310 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:46,720 It's right there. 311 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:49,720 I don't see anything. 312 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:51,720 It's dark. 313 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,720 We're the only three people in the basement at that time. 314 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,720 There is nobody else in the theater. 315 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,720 Both Officer Murph and I just kind of looked at each other. 316 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,720 It was unbelievable. 317 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,720 I mean, everything that he had told us, 318 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,720 everything that had happened to us previously 319 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,720 and that happened to us that night, 320 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,720 it was validation. 321 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,720 But they said, well, sure, as heck, it wasn't in the job description. 322 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,720 After Greg had left, things just kind of got more and more complicated. 323 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:36,720 It was more crazy. 324 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,720 The thing that really pushed it over the edge for me 325 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,720 was the county had just installed a brand new security camera. 326 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,720 There was an infrared camera, 327 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,720 so when the lights were off, you could actually see what was going on in the dark. 328 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,720 As I'm sitting there, 329 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:01,720 I notice that there is something sitting in one of the rows. 330 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,720 I maximized that screen so it's full screen on the computer monitor. 331 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,720 And there's a figure. 332 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,720 It looks like he's enjoying a show. 333 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,720 And then all of a sudden... 334 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,720 ...shoot across the sky. 335 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:31,720 He's going... 336 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,720 ...as he's going across. 337 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,720 And that scared me. 338 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,720 And from that point on, I would not work in the theater. 339 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,720 Because if there's something that is that demonic, 340 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,720 I don't want to be around it. 341 00:29:55,720 --> 00:30:00,720 Well, you always feel comfortable if you have a partner, if you have a backup. 342 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,720 There's nobody now to back me up. 343 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,720 I'm alone now. 344 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:13,720 On the night I would come in, lock, turn the lights off, come back two hours later. 345 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,720 Lights are on. 346 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,720 Doors are open, and nobody's in the building. 347 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,720 Now I've got to search the basement. 348 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,720 It's mine to make sure it's safe, it's secure. 349 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,720 But I don't feel secure. 350 00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,720 It was a quiet evening. 351 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,720 And I'm in the control room. 352 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,720 Yeah, I'm still at work. 353 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,720 And I hear music, like ragtime music. 354 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,720 Hold on, I'll call you right back. 355 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:18,720 Everything's locked. I had gone through the building, I checked, there's nobody in the building. 356 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,720 The music wasn't coming from the auditorium. 357 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:51,720 I made my way down the east side stairwell, and the music's getting louder. 358 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:03,720 If I could come around the corner, and see a prankster on the piano, I'd breathe a sigh of relief. 359 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,720 Where's the individual? 360 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,720 I witnessed enough, I didn't have to see anymore. 361 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,720 Who am I going to call, dispatch? 362 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,720 The piano's playing and nobody's in the building. 363 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,720 I don't want to be in the building, I just want to get out. 364 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,720 The next day I went and saw my sergeant, and I said, 365 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,720 if you ever put me in that theater again, I'll quit. 366 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,720 I've been a police officer for about five and a half years. 367 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,720 At this time, I was in the Predictive Services Division. 368 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,720 First time I worked at the Capitol Theater, I'm walking downstairs to the basement area. 369 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,720 I had already cleared the building, made sure no one was inside, doors locked. 370 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,720 I was in the patrol car that night. 371 00:34:08,720 --> 00:34:11,720 Making sure the other officers were safe, everything was okay. 372 00:34:12,720 --> 00:34:13,720 How's it going over there? 373 00:34:14,720 --> 00:34:15,720 Just doing the rounds. 374 00:34:15,720 --> 00:34:17,720 I just thought I'd check up on you. 375 00:34:17,720 --> 00:34:18,720 First night and all. 376 00:34:28,720 --> 00:34:29,720 Where for the elevator's moving? 377 00:34:32,720 --> 00:34:33,720 I know it's possible, but... 378 00:34:34,720 --> 00:34:35,720 It's moving. 379 00:34:35,720 --> 00:34:36,720 Come on, man. 380 00:34:43,720 --> 00:34:45,720 I'd race over to the theater. 381 00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:08,720 There's no one there. 382 00:35:09,720 --> 00:35:11,720 And that kind of just freaked me out. 383 00:35:13,720 --> 00:35:16,720 I got there as quickly as I could, but that night, 384 00:35:17,720 --> 00:35:19,720 I had no desire to be in the building. 385 00:35:20,720 --> 00:35:21,720 He meets me at the door. 386 00:35:22,720 --> 00:35:23,720 I mean, his eyes were huge. 387 00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:25,720 I mean, his expression was... 388 00:35:29,720 --> 00:35:32,720 As soon as he arrived, I let him know that I had been in the building. 389 00:35:32,720 --> 00:35:34,720 So we got our guns drawn and we're going through. 390 00:35:49,720 --> 00:35:52,720 I look in the mirror and also then I see something run by. 391 00:35:53,720 --> 00:35:54,720 I see something. 392 00:35:55,720 --> 00:35:56,720 I see something. 393 00:35:57,720 --> 00:35:58,720 I see something. 394 00:35:59,720 --> 00:36:00,720 I see something. 395 00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:02,720 And also then I see something run by. 396 00:36:03,720 --> 00:36:04,720 I look at Murphy. 397 00:36:04,720 --> 00:36:05,720 Did you just see that? 398 00:36:06,720 --> 00:36:07,720 I don't see nothing. 399 00:36:15,720 --> 00:36:16,720 Take the right. I'll take the left. 400 00:36:19,720 --> 00:36:21,720 I go towards the stage door. 401 00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:23,720 That's quite a distance away. 402 00:36:30,720 --> 00:36:31,720 What did you say? 403 00:36:32,720 --> 00:36:33,720 All of a sudden I hear a whisper. 404 00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:35,720 Didn't say anything. 405 00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:38,720 And I noticed he's clear on the other side of the stage. 406 00:36:39,720 --> 00:36:40,720 Quit messing with me, man. 407 00:36:41,720 --> 00:36:42,720 And I said, what? 408 00:36:43,720 --> 00:36:46,720 He says, you just whispered in my ear. 409 00:36:47,720 --> 00:36:48,720 I get it. It's creepy. 410 00:36:49,720 --> 00:36:51,720 And he's got his back turned towards the back of the stage 411 00:36:51,720 --> 00:36:53,720 and I'm looking at the auditory. 412 00:36:54,720 --> 00:36:55,720 I'm looking at the auditory. 413 00:36:56,720 --> 00:36:57,720 I'm looking at the auditory. 414 00:36:58,720 --> 00:36:59,720 I'm looking at the auditory. 415 00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:01,720 And where all the seats are at. 416 00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:04,720 Murphy, there's something behind you. 417 00:37:18,720 --> 00:37:20,720 Murphy, there's something behind you. 418 00:37:22,720 --> 00:37:23,720 I turn around slow. 419 00:37:30,720 --> 00:37:31,720 I turn around slow. 420 00:37:36,720 --> 00:37:37,720 Holy cow. 421 00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:39,720 What is this? 422 00:37:39,720 --> 00:37:40,720 I didn't want to see it. 423 00:37:41,720 --> 00:37:42,720 I pulled out my flashlight 424 00:37:43,720 --> 00:37:44,720 and I pointed at it. 425 00:37:45,720 --> 00:37:46,720 It disappears. 426 00:37:47,720 --> 00:37:48,720 There's nothing there. 427 00:37:49,720 --> 00:37:51,720 And I know I'm not just seeing this. 428 00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:53,720 The eyes were deep socketed 429 00:37:54,720 --> 00:37:55,720 and it was just looking right at me. 430 00:37:56,720 --> 00:37:57,720 And that kind of just freaked me out. 431 00:38:01,720 --> 00:38:02,720 I wanted to find out 432 00:38:04,720 --> 00:38:05,720 who these beings were 433 00:38:06,720 --> 00:38:07,720 or the stories that were circulating. 434 00:38:08,720 --> 00:38:10,720 So I went back and I talked to staff. 435 00:38:11,720 --> 00:38:12,720 I mean, I talked to a lot of people 436 00:38:13,720 --> 00:38:14,720 but they weren't saying a whole lot. 437 00:38:16,720 --> 00:38:18,720 So as I was leaving, this man came out. 438 00:38:19,720 --> 00:38:20,720 Officer Murphy. 439 00:38:21,720 --> 00:38:23,720 He handed me a piece of paper. 440 00:38:24,720 --> 00:38:26,720 He said, contact this man if he's still alive. 441 00:38:31,720 --> 00:38:32,720 undefined 442 00:38:34,720 --> 00:38:36,720 Undefined 443 00:38:39,720 --> 00:38:40,720 Undefined 444 00:38:41,720 --> 00:38:44,720 Doug Morgan is a stagehand who had worked there. 445 00:38:45,720 --> 00:38:46,720 East probablyしま on the Capital Theater 446 00:38:47,720 --> 00:38:48,720 good 40 years. 447 00:38:49,720 --> 00:38:52,720 I remember having Dave come to the house. 448 00:38:53,720 --> 00:38:56,720 He had stories that he wanted to 449 00:38:57,720 --> 00:38:59,720 fill up little holes in 450 00:39:00,720 --> 00:39:06,720 And I said, Doug, you know, this is what's been happening to me over there. 451 00:39:06,720 --> 00:39:08,720 And people think I'm crazy. 452 00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:10,720 I said, can you shed some light? 453 00:39:10,720 --> 00:39:13,720 I haven't opened this case in a lot of years. 454 00:39:13,720 --> 00:39:19,720 I first started working at the theater in 1948. 455 00:39:19,720 --> 00:39:22,720 I was an usher at that time. 456 00:39:22,720 --> 00:39:27,720 One day I was running some errands, 457 00:39:27,720 --> 00:39:34,720 and when I returned, I found the Capitol Theater surrounded with fire trucks. 458 00:39:34,720 --> 00:39:38,720 This is a photo. 459 00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:40,720 I'm like fire. 460 00:39:40,720 --> 00:39:42,720 Fire, yes. 461 00:39:45,720 --> 00:39:49,720 I got back. That's the scene I saw. 462 00:39:49,720 --> 00:39:52,720 The fire itself started in the basement. 463 00:39:52,720 --> 00:39:58,720 That afternoon there was a movie being shown, 464 00:39:58,720 --> 00:40:03,720 and at least 600 people had to be evacuated from the theater. 465 00:40:03,720 --> 00:40:09,720 Well, Dougie had told me that he knew another boy by the name of Richard Duffin. 466 00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:15,720 Richard Duffin was a new usher. 467 00:40:15,720 --> 00:40:22,720 He went back in to help the folks that were still lost. 468 00:40:25,720 --> 00:40:32,720 Well, Richard was trapped in that basement and very possibly lost his way 469 00:40:32,720 --> 00:40:39,720 and was overcome by this smoke while he was trying to help these people get out. 470 00:40:40,720 --> 00:40:45,720 There it was in black and white. 471 00:40:45,720 --> 00:40:53,720 Back in the 40s, the fire in the Capitol Theater and the young boy Duffin, the usher, 472 00:40:53,720 --> 00:40:55,720 that died in the fire. 473 00:40:58,720 --> 00:41:02,720 I think that Duffin was a very brave man. 474 00:41:03,720 --> 00:41:08,720 Doug Morgan verified everything I saw and everything I witnessed. 475 00:41:08,720 --> 00:41:10,720 Doug, thanks very much for seeing me. 476 00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:12,720 Well, thanks for coming over here. 477 00:41:12,720 --> 00:41:16,720 This man almost brought me to tears because I knew. 478 00:41:16,720 --> 00:41:19,720 I knew before I was crazy. 479 00:41:19,720 --> 00:41:22,720 To this day I know I'm not crazy. 480 00:41:24,720 --> 00:41:28,720 It just made sense with everything, you know, everything that I'd gone through, 481 00:41:28,720 --> 00:41:32,720 a shaking door, someone's trapped and they're trying to get out. 482 00:41:32,720 --> 00:41:38,720 I was in a dangerous fire that killed somebody and yet I can still smell smoke. 483 00:41:41,720 --> 00:41:45,720 I've been told by other officers, you need to learn to shut your mouth. 484 00:41:45,720 --> 00:41:48,720 I can't. 485 00:41:48,720 --> 00:41:51,720 They were thinking I was making this up. 486 00:41:51,720 --> 00:41:54,720 I wanted to prove them wrong. 487 00:41:55,720 --> 00:41:59,720 I know what I saw. I know what I felt. 488 00:41:59,720 --> 00:42:04,720 These things, that's a part of my life now.